Use a joystick if your sim demands a dedicated rudder and throttle axis you hold for minutes at a time — Microsoft Flight Simulator, Elite Dangerous, Star Citizen. Use a controller if you want one pad that works across your whole library and you fly casually. At $79.99 versus $74.00 as of August 2026, price is not the deciding factor. Axis count is.
Why this is a per-genre answer, not a universal one
There is a version of this question that gets answered badly on every forum: "is a joystick better than a controller for flight sims?" The honest answer is that "flight sim" is not one workload. Landing a Cessna 172 on a 3,000-foot grass strip in Microsoft Flight Simulator and dogfighting in War Thunder's arcade mode are different input problems that happen to share a genre tag.
A general-aviation approach needs three axes you hold continuously and adjust in fractions of a degree: pitch, roll, and rudder, with throttle set and left alone. A spring-centred gamepad thumbstick has roughly 15mm of travel per axis. The Logitech G Extreme 3D Pro gives you about 55mm of grip deflection at the top of the shaft. That is three and a half times the physical resolution for the same electrical resolution, and it is why the stick still sells at volume in 2026 on a design that shipped in 2004.
Space sims invert some of that. Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous want six degrees of freedom — pitch, roll, yaw, plus lateral, vertical, and longitudinal strafe — and a single stick cannot cover six axes without modes or hats. Meanwhile the PlayStation DualSense has four stick axes plus two analog triggers, which maps to six continuous inputs out of the box.
Then there is the third case nobody warns you about: sims where mouse-aim is the meta and both of these are the wrong answer. War Thunder's arcade and realistic battles are won with a mouse. Buying a $79 joystick to fly them is a real and common mistake.
So the framework below is: count the axes your specific sim demands, then buy the device that supplies them. Not the device with the best reviews.
Key takeaways
- Count analog axes before you buy. Four or fewer sustained axes → either device works. Five or six → the DualSense's trigger axes make it the cheaper path.
- The Extreme 3D Pro's twist-rudder Z-axis is the single feature that justifies it. No gamepad gives you a rudder you can hold for an entire approach without occupying a thumb.
- The DualSense is the better cross-library buy. It flies adequately and plays everything else natively; the joystick flies well and does nothing else.
- Potentiometer drift is real on the Logitech and is the most-cited long-term complaint across its 13,169 ratings.
- Neither is an endgame. Past roughly five hours a week of flying, the correct purchase is a split-throttle HOTAS, and buying one of these first is a $75 tuition fee — a cheap one.
Step 0 — diagnose your sim: how many axes does it actually demand?
Open your sim's control-bindings screen and count only the inputs you would want on an analog axis rather than a button. Not the ones you could bind — the ones where partial input matters.
| Sim | Sustained analog axes | Mouse-viable? | Practical verdict |
|---|---|---|---|
| Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 | 4 (pitch, roll, rudder, throttle) | No | Joystick clearly ahead |
| Elite Dangerous | 5–6 (3 rotation + 2–3 thrust) | Partially | Either; stick for immersion |
| Star Citizen | 6+ (3 rotation + 3 strafe + throttle) | Combat: yes | Gamepad or stick + mouse |
| War Thunder (arcade/realistic) | 2 (mouse-aim flight model) | Yes | Neither — use a mouse |
| War Thunder (simulator battles) | 4 | No | Joystick strongly ahead |
| Kerbal Space Program | 3–4 | No | Gamepad; keyboard is fine |
| DCS World | 6+ (needs split throttle) | No | Neither — buy a real HOTAS |
Two numbers fall out of that table. If your answer is four or fewer, the Extreme 3D Pro covers every axis natively, because it carries X, Y, a twist Z-axis, and a base throttle lever. If your answer is five or six, you either need hat-switch modes on the stick or you need the DualSense's six continuous axes.
Spec delta: Logitech G Extreme 3D Pro vs PlayStation DualSense
| Spec | Logitech G Extreme 3D Pro | PlayStation DualSense |
|---|---|---|
| Analog axes | 4 (X, Y, twist Z, throttle lever) | 6 (2 sticks = 4, 2 adaptive triggers = 2) |
| Buttons / hats | 12 buttons, 1 eight-way hat | 14 buttons, D-pad, touchpad click |
| Connection | USB-A, wired only | USB-C wired or Bluetooth 5.1 |
| Force feedback / haptics | None — spring centring only | Dual voice-coil haptics + adaptive trigger resistance |
| Street price (Aug 2026) | $79.99 | $74.00 |
Two lines in that table decide most purchases. The twist Z-axis is the joystick's whole argument: a rudder you control with wrist rotation while both thumbs stay free. The adaptive triggers are the DualSense's: variable-resistance analog inputs that make a throttle or a thrust axis feel like it has detents even though it does not.
Everything else is close. The DualSense is $6 cheaper and has more raw axes; the Logitech has more physical travel on the two axes that matter most.
What the Extreme 3D Pro still gets right in 2026
It sells because the fundamentals are correct and unchanged. Logitech's official product page still lists the same twelve programmable buttons and rapid-fire trigger it did two decades ago, and that consistency is not laziness — nothing about a spring-centred flight stick needed to change.
The twist rudder is the standout. On a gamepad, yaw costs you a thumbstick axis you would rather spend on camera or thrust. On this stick, yaw is a wrist rotation you apply and hold without occupying anything. In a crosswind landing in MSFS 2024, where you carry a few degrees of rudder for the entire final approach, that difference is the difference between a stable centreline and a series of corrections.
The 8-way hat on the stick head does the second-most-important job: trim and camera. In Elite Dangerous, binding the hat to head-look gives you situational awareness that a gamepad player has to buy with a right-stick axis.
The base throttle lever is a genuine analog throttle with about 45mm of travel. It is not a split-throttle HOTAS quadrant, but it holds a setting mechanically, which no spring-centred trigger does.
And it is wired USB-A with zero setup. Windows enumerates it as a generic HID device; MSFS, Elite, and Star Citizen all detect it without a shim. That is worth more than it sounds — most of the input problems people post about are Bluetooth and translation-layer problems, and this device has neither.
Where the Extreme 3D Pro falls down
Potentiometer drift is the headline fault. The stick uses analog potentiometers rather than contactless hall-effect sensors. After a few years, wiper wear moves the electrical centre away from the mechanical centre, and the aircraft develops a slow roll or pitch with your hand off the grip. A 3–5% in-game deadzone masks the early stage. Past that, the fix is cleaning or replacing the pots, which is a straightforward teardown but is a teardown.
There is no throttle detent. The lever moves smoothly through its entire range with no idle stop and no afterburner gate, so setting exactly 75% N1 is a look-at-the-gauge operation rather than a feel operation.
Twist-rudder yaw fatigues the wrist. Sustained rotation against the spring for a 40-minute flight is genuinely tiring, and it is the reason serious flight simmers eventually buy pedals.
Twelve buttons is not many for a space sim. Star Citizen's default bindings run past 60 actions. You will be shift-modifying, and shift-modifying on a stick means the keyboard is still in play.
No force feedback. No stall buffet, no trim forces, no gear-thump. In this respect a $74 gamepad transmits more physical information than a $79 flight stick, which is a strange thing to write and is nonetheless true.
What the DualSense brings that a budget stick cannot
The DualSense earns its 4.7-star average across 11,205 ratings on three features the Logitech structurally cannot match.
Adaptive triggers. Each trigger has a motorised resistance mechanism that a game can vary in real time. Sims use it for throttle detents and for control-surface loading — resistance climbs as airspeed does. It is the closest thing to force feedback at this price.
Voice-coil haptics. These are not rumble motors. They are wideband actuators that reproduce texture: gear doors, runway seams, thruster spool-up. In Elite Dangerous the difference between frameshift charge and frameshift ready is a distinct haptic signature rather than a generic buzz.
Gyro aiming. The six-axis IMU gives you fine-grained pointing on top of stick input, which matters for turret and camera control in Star Citizen. This one is Steam-dependent — see below.
The wiring caveat is the important part. Over USB-C, the DualSense runs about 4–8ms of input latency. Over Bluetooth, expect 10–15ms. For flight that gap is genuinely irrelevant; wire it anyway, because a controller that dies mid-approach is worse than one with a cable.
Which input wins per title
Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 — joystick. Not close. Four sustained axes, all of which the Extreme 3D Pro supplies natively, and long approaches where physical travel translates directly into precision.
Star Citizen — gamepad, or stick plus mouse. The community consensus that has held for years is mouse-and-keyboard for ship combat and a stick for flight, mining, and cargo. If you want one device, the DualSense's six axes cover 6DoF better than one stick does.
Elite Dangerous — either, leaning stick. Six axes is a stretch for a single stick, but hat-switch thrust bindings work well and the immersion payoff is real. This is the title where the choice is genuinely personal.
War Thunder — depends entirely on mode. Arcade and realistic battles use a mouse-aim flight model where a joystick is an active handicap. Simulator battles flip that completely: full control-surface simulation, no mouse aim, joystick strongly ahead.
Kerbal Space Program — gamepad. Rotation is coarse, throttle is a held key, and the game was designed around keyboard input. A joystick adds nothing; a gamepad is more comfortable on the couch.
Binding and deadzone setup
Three steps, in this order, and the third is the one everyone skips.
1. Wire it. USB-A for the Logitech, USB-C for the DualSense. This eliminates an entire class of intermittent input bugs before you start.
2. Pick your translation layer. In Steam titles the DualSense is supported natively through Steam Input, including gyro and touchpad. Outside Steam, most games only speak XInput, so you need DS4Windows to present the DualSense as an Xbox pad. Be aware of the trade: adaptive triggers and haptics generally do not survive that translation, so you keep the ergonomics and lose the features that justified the purchase. The joystick needs neither layer.
3. Calibrate before you tune curves — the most-missed step. On Windows, run joy.cpl, select the device, and complete the calibration wizard with the stick physically centred and untouched. Almost every "my new joystick drifts out of the box" post is an uncalibrated device. Only after calibration should you set a deadzone — start at 3% on the Logitech, 2% on the DualSense — and only then apply sensitivity curves. A 20–30% curve softens centre response for fine trim without costing you full deflection at the stops.
Can you run both at once?
Yes, and for space sims it is the setup that actually works. Windows enumerates multiple HID devices independently, and MSFS, Elite Dangerous, and Star Citizen all let you bind across devices in one profile.
The layout that pays off: stick handles pitch, roll, yaw, and throttle. Gamepad handles camera, strafe, and system panels — landing gear, power distribution, scanners — on the face buttons and D-pad. You stop shift-modifying, which is the single biggest quality-of-life gain in a space sim.
For the second device, a wired GameSir G7 SE at $44.99 is the sensible pick over a second DualSense. It uses hall-effect sticks, so it will not develop drift while sitting as a secondary controller, it is wired-only (no battery to find dead), and Windows sees it as a plain XInput pad with no shim. Its 4.4-star average across 13,729 ratings is consistent with that: unglamorous and reliable. You are buying it as a 20-button panel with two spare axes, not as a primary flight input.
Total for the hybrid: $79.99 + $44.99 = $124.98. That is still under the entry price of a split-throttle HOTAS, and it covers more axes.
Building the rest of the seat
Input is one third of a sim setup. The other two are audio and field of view, and both are undervalued.
Audio matters more in sims than in most genres. Engine note is your primary RPM cue, stall-horn and gear-warning tones are safety-critical, and multi-crew comms in Star Citizen are a coordination channel. You do not need an expensive headset for this — you need a closed-back one with a boom mic. The BENGOO G9000 at $29.99 is the volume pick for exactly this reason: 121,908 ratings at 4.3 stars, wired 3.5mm so there is no wireless latency in the comms chain, and a detachable-position boom. It will not win an audiophile comparison. It will tell you the gear is down.
Field of view is where the money should go. Flight sims are one of the few genres where screen real estate converts directly into capability — instrument panel, outside references, and a map at the same time. A 27-inch 4K panel like the KOORUI 27-inch dual-mode at $349.99 runs 4K/160Hz or 1080p/320Hz, and the 4K mode is the one that matters here: legible six-pack instruments without leaning in. Sims are not twitch-refresh workloads, so pay for pixels, not hertz.
Desk mounting. The Extreme 3D Pro has a suction-cup base that works on glass and laminate and does not work on textured or wood-grain surfaces. A cheap silicone mat under the base solves it. An unmounted stick that slides mid-approach makes precision impossible regardless of what you spent.
Perf-per-dollar math
| Device | Price | Usable analog axes | Cost per axis | Works outside sims? |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Logitech G Extreme 3D Pro | $79.99 | 4 | $20.00 | No |
| PlayStation DualSense | $74.00 | 6 | $12.33 | Yes — entire library |
| GameSir G7 SE | $44.99 | 6 | $7.50 | Yes — entire library |
| Stick + G7 SE hybrid | $124.98 | 10 | $12.50 | Partially |
| Entry split-throttle HOTAS | ~$300 | 8+ | ~$37.50 | No |
Read that table honestly and the joystick loses on raw cost per axis to every gamepad on the list. It wins on a metric the table cannot show: axis quality on pitch, roll, and rudder. Twenty dollars per axis buys 55mm of travel and a wrist-driven rudder. Twelve dollars per axis buys 15mm of thumb travel.
The upgrade path is the other honest part. Neither device is a terminal purchase for someone who gets serious. A real HOTAS separates throttle from stick, frees a hand, and removes the twist-rudder wrist fatigue — for roughly four times the money. The correct sequence is: spend $75 to find out whether the hobby sticks, then buy once. Spending $300 first on a hobby you might drop in three weeks is the actual dead end.
Verdict matrix
Get the Extreme 3D Pro if… your library centres on MSFS 2024, War Thunder sim battles, or DCS-adjacent flying; you want a real rudder axis without buying pedals; you already own a gamepad for everything else; and you accept that potentiometer drift is a maintenance item rather than a defect.
Get the DualSense if… you play one flight or space sim among many other games; your sims are Star Citizen, Elite Dangerous, or Kerbal Space Program; you play mostly on Steam where adaptive triggers and gyro work natively; and you would rather have one excellent cross-library pad than two single-purpose devices.
Get both if… you fly space sims seriously. $124.98 for the stick plus a wired G7 SE buys you ten analog axes and a dedicated system panel, and it is the layout that stops you shift-modifying mid-combat.
Get neither if… War Thunder arcade is your main mode (use a mouse), or you already know you will be flying DCS every night (skip to a split-throttle HOTAS and save the intermediate purchase).
Bottom line
For most people asking this question in 2026, the DualSense is the right first purchase. It supplies six analog axes for $74, it is the only device here with haptics and adaptive triggers, and it plays your entire non-sim library the moment you unplug it from the sim.
The Extreme 3D Pro is the right purchase for a narrower and very real group: people who fly atmospheric aircraft, need a rudder they can hold, and are willing to own a device that does exactly one thing well. If that is you, buy it, calibrate it properly, run a 3% deadzone, and expect to service the potentiometers somewhere around year three.
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Citations and sources
- Logitech G — Extreme 3D Pro product page — first-party spec sheet for the twelve-button layout, twist-rudder Z-axis, and base throttle lever cited in the spec-delta table. Accessed 2026-08-24.
- PlayStation — DualSense Wireless Controller — first-party documentation for adaptive-trigger resistance, voice-coil haptics, and the six-axis motion sensor referenced in the DualSense section. Accessed 2026-08-24.
- Microsoft Flight Simulator — official site — canonical source for MSFS 2024 platform and peripheral-support claims in the per-title section. Accessed 2026-08-24.
- Steamworks — Steam Input documentation — authoritative reference for native DualSense support, gyro passthrough, and the XInput emulation behavior described in the setup section. Accessed 2026-08-24.
- DS4Windows (schmaldeo fork) — GitHub — the maintained shim used to present a DualSense as an XInput device outside Steam, and the source for the haptics/adaptive-trigger loss noted there. Accessed 2026-08-24.
- Star Citizen — Roberts Space Industries — first-party reference for the 6DoF flight model and control-binding scope discussed in the per-title and hybrid sections. Accessed 2026-08-24.
- Elite Dangerous — official site — first-party reference for the flight model and thrust-axis requirements cited in the axis-count table. Accessed 2026-08-24.
Editorial-synthesis disclosure: this article synthesizes first-party Logitech, Sony, Frontier, and Cloud Imperium documentation with Steam Input's published behavior, aggregate owner-reported failure modes across the Logitech unit's 13,169 ratings, and our own binding and calibration notes on a Windows 11 desktop running MSFS 2024, Elite Dangerous, and Star Citizen. Latency figures are typical published ranges for wired USB and Bluetooth 5.x HID, not lab measurements. No unit was supplied by a vendor.
— Mike Perry · Last verified 2026-08-24
